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Five Habits of Ineffective Community Managers

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Community managers are getting lazy. I think it’s because many who actually hold the title, aren’t really doing the job. On some level, it isn’t their fault. The people hiring them don’t know what they’re looking for and many are strictly numbers driven.

Success is measured in “likes” and ‘comments.” Job descriptions mention the growth of a Facebook or Twitter community, when there isn’t one in existence in the first place. Fans and followers do not constitute a community. But despite how I feel about that, which is all based on experience, the jobs are plenty and that is a good thing. But community management is an art and a craft that must be fostered and developed.

Real community managers know this. The others are simply  playing community managers on the internet.  And here’s how they operate. Here, I give you the five habits of highly ineffective community managers:

1. They are constantly asking users to help them reach specific milestones. You’ve seen it before: “Help us get to 5,000 fans,” “Like this post so we can beat our record of 90 likes on a single post,” Five more comments to reach 100, come on..post!”  Does this sound familiar? I know you’ve seen it. This is the absolute laziest way to grow a community. It’s all about numbers to the people who do this. I hate to even refer to them as community managers. They could care less about actual engagement. They’re just looking for bragging rights.

2. They don’t bother to learn about community management as a craft, or how to improve.   I am not saying they don’t read or subscribe to blogs about social media. They do that. But they probably don’t read blogs about community management or take time to visit other successful communities to see what makes them great. They’re not reading Rich Millington’s Feverbee, Martin Reed’s Community Spark, Blaise Grimes-Viort, Connie Bensen, Alison Michalk, emoderation, The Community Roundtable, Dawn Foster’s Fast Wonder, or Patrick O’Keefe. When you care about community management, you connect with these thought leaders.

3. They don’t contribute as much as they should. Any community manager worth their weight knows that oftentimes you have to be the biggest contributor. The others fail to realize that they must  lead by example and if they would just communicate with members of the community, they’d soon become an influential force with the ability to make things happen.They’d rather ask participants to “share their stories” on some boring topic and deem themselves an expert at engagement once the entries start rolling in.

4. They phone it in, scheduling posts in bulk with no interest in real-time conversations.  These community manager-types don’t deal with the present or what’s happening in the real world. Timeliness is unimportant, as long as they reach those numbers. They automate it all, and set cruise control.

5. They spend more time searching for their next social media job than fostering dialogue and discussions. This one needs no explanation. There is nothing wrong with being ambitious. I certainly fit the bill. But why not focus on actually growing a successful community so that when you do get that next opportunity, you’re a shoe-in?

I’ve interviewed many people who tell me they know how to engage and they’ve run all sorts of campaigns that tripled a company’s fan base and ran a successful Twitter chat. But when the conversation gets deep and I try to hone in on how they engage and maintain a user base, the answers are pretty thin. It’s clear that they haven’t been in the trenches, or if they were, they didn’t want to be there.

So there you have the five habits of highly ineffective community managers. There are definitely more and I do plan to bring them to light over the next few months. In the meantime, if there are any others you’ve seen, I’d love to hear about them.

 

(Orignially posted on my blog, on March 19, 2012)



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Angela Connor

Angela Connor is Senior Vice President and Group Director at Capstrat. She heads the media and social media teams. Angela is a multimedia journalist and social media strategist with 18 years of experience in print, broadcast and online news. She is the author of 18 Rules of Community Engagement: A Guide for Building Relationships and Connecting with Customers Online, and a 2012 recipient of ...

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August 7, 2012

Sinduja Ragunathan says:

Angela, thank you so much for this one. I should say, it was one of the most sensible pieces on social media I have come across in recent times and most importantly, a huge morale boost to me personally. This is my first job in Social media and I was really wondering if I am missing something - some secret book of tips to win at the numbers game. Everything seems to be measured by the numbers - number of likes, number of fans, number of re-tweets. True, numbers do mean something bu they can never be the end in themselves. 

End of the day, the most important qualification for me to be a community manager is a genuine interest in connecting with people, sharing resources and building a community. Thanks for reinforcing that. Now I know, I am at the right place! :)

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August 7, 2012

Angela Connor says:

Hi there! I'm glad you found my post helpful. There is no secret sauce, as managing communities can be a very different experience from one CM to the next. I am glad that you aren't getting caught up in the numbers game. I can recall some very crazy times when I managed WRAL's online community and there were days I really wanted to throw in the towel. But you have to keep moving and stay motivated. The return on your investment can be great. Your last paragraph is right on. Keep that attitude and stay motivated. And please let me know if you ever need a pick-me-up along the way.

 

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August 6, 2012

Brianna Diemer says:

Thanks for the post, Angela! I agree with Christina that many community managers think in terms of the company, rather than the customer, and take away the value of true social media.

You mention that success is measured in terms of comments and "likes." I believe there is a level of success with these metrics, but it also boils down to what goals are set for each channel. Each social media platform (Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc.) has a unique purpose, and should be managed, monitored, and measured as such. 

As for adding a "ineffective habit," I would say inconsistency. There are multiple Facebook pages and Twitter accounts that post one per week or even once per month. Fresh, interesting, consistent content is key!

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August 7, 2012

Angela Connor says:

Hi Brianna: You said it: GOALS! They are critical. If you don't know WHY you're doing it, and what you're striving to accomplish, how will you know success when it happens? Yes, there is some value in likes and comments. I believe that as well. But that is the short-term and cannot be all that is valued within a community. I just get so sick of hearing about it!! I like your addition of "inconsistency." A bad habit for sure. Remember, consistency only comes when you are committed, and there are a lot of CM's out there who are not! Thanks for taking the time to share. 

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August 6, 2012

Manroop Takhar says:

This is a really good post.. featuring an interesting perspective I think. There is certainly a lot more to communities than just asking for likes or surface level interaction. I think Twitter puts it best with the idea that it should be more of a conversation.

The problem I sense with number 4 is that we all feel like we've got no time to sit on Twitter all day when there's so much other writing, researching and responding to be done. Automating tweets for some of our clients is literally the only way I could manage it all! And things like Buffer make it so easy. Having said that, if you break it down into little nuggets of time, it's easy to have time for all the writing and research and discipline yourself to keep that responding to maybe twenty minutes a day. Because it is important about actually having a conversation and taking time to respond and leave comments. At the end of the day, that's what you want people to do with the content YOU create, so why not lead by example?

Thanks for writing such an insightful and thought provoking post!

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August 7, 2012

Angela Connor says:

Thanks for the kind words. I get what you're saying about not having the time. I am not critical of automating posts. You do what you have to do. It is very hard to find the time to do all that we would like in social media. But I wonder if we are talking about the same thing. When someone has the title "community manager" their job should not consist of simply posting tweets.

This is where I often get into long discussions with people on the topic of social media manager vs. community manager. I have written about that on my blog, and you can find the post here, if interested. Sometimes the hiring managers don't know what they are looking for. They want someone to "handle" Twitter and perhaps Facebook and they are calling them a community manager, while they also have ten other core responsibilities associated with their job. That is not the recipe for success.  But I digress.

I would love to discuss my thoughts with you on that some day. I agree with you on the power of the content you provide and it is very important to lead by example.  Thanks again for taking the time to post. It's another thing you took on when our days are already packed, and I appreciate it.

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August 5, 2012

Angela Connor says:

Thanks for taking the time to comment Christina. I like your addition, and I agree. Sadly, the lazy ones have probably never really put themselves on the other side of the coin in this. It would be a turning point though, if they did.

I can't tell you how annoyed I get when I see "Help us get to 500 likes" or "Let's shoot for 40 comments on this post." Sickening. Just do what you do and maybe it will  happen organically! 

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August 3, 2012

Christina Trapolino says:

"Asking users to help reach milestones" really stuck out for me in this list.  I try to preach the benefits of interacting sincerely with an audience -- asking, "what do you value?" or, "what would you like to see from us?" is almost always a good idea, but asking for numbers feels slimy for a good reason -- it is slimy.  And it makes communities look at you like you're an amateur (because usually, you are).

I think I would add one more habit of a lazy CM to your list: Forgetting what it's like to be the consumer.  If you're always thinking about your community in terms of what value it provides to you or your brand, you are doing it wrong.  Flip that around and you'll be on your way to success!

Great read.  Thanks for the post!

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