I've recently been seeing a slideshare presentation about Klout for Community Managers making the rounds to general fanfare. No offense to the authors of that presentation, but I totally don't buy it.
The biggest factor that goes into a Klout score is Twitter use. The more you tweet and the more followers you have, the higher your score. People have proven this theory by setting up bots who, just by tweeting at a set interval, have achieved high Klout scores in a few months. People with high Klout scores have seen them plummet if they happen to take a break from tweeting for a few days or a week. There's no denying that Klout score is intimately linked to Twitter use--after all, it's tied to your Twitter account, isn't it? What else, besides Twitter, does Klout even measure? For now, Facebook--although what, on Facebook, I'm not sure. Not blogging. Certainly not any activity that takes place offline. So basically, Klout score is a Twitter score that rewards prolific Twitter users.
Now picture the community you manage: does every person in that community use Twitter? Almost certainly not. And say there are a few prolific tweeters among your community members; are those people the ones who will automatically be the most engaged and/or influential in your community? Maybe, but equally likely, maybe not. Especially if the community you manage is an association community, not a brand community--the liklihood that many of your members are prolific on Twitter is pretty slim. Or say some of them are big on Twitter and have high Klout scores--would this make them more valuable than other members of your community? More engaged? More anything? Sorry but no--the only thing it would indicate is that they use Twitter a lot.
I suppose if you manage a brand community on, say, Facebook, I could see where members' Klout scores could be slightly relevant, but honestly, it's a reach. And going out of your way to identify these people and give them preferential treatment above other non-Twitter-crazy community members? A waste of time, in my opinion. Instead of preparing elaborate spreadsheets of Klout scores and influenced by/influencers of as the presentation I mention above suggests, use metrics relevant to YOUR community. Spend your time identifying which people are most engaged in your community, not on Twitter. Who takes the time to share thoughtful suggestions or offer help to members of your community? Who logs in regularly? Who is active in offline communities of potential new members--for instance committes or other associations? Those are the people you should pay special attention to, not the ones some broken cookie cutter formula based on Twitter use deems perk-worthy.
Klout as a Tool for Community Managers: Why I Don't Buy It
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maggielmcg said:
Hey--thanks for weighing in/clarifying. I'm the first to admit I'm not a fan of Klout so I'm obviously biased against it. Also, as a community manager in the association world--not the brand world--my experience is a bit (or maybe a lot) different than someone who manages a brand community. In association community management, your members ARE your community and online community platforms exist as a member benefit, rather than to drive brand awareness or sales or stuff like that. In my case, that community is made up of medical practitioners who belong to the association and participate in the online community to exchange professional knowledge and bounce ideas off each other. Some use Twitter, but it doesn't have much bearing on the association's community. The people who are active on Twitter tend to be active on Twitter, and the people who are active on our platforms tend to be active there and not Twitter. And of those who are active on Twitter, even the most active and engaged don't have particularly high Klout scores because their network is relatively small. So in my case--and the case of other association community managers (sadly there aren't many of them, but that's starting to change) Klout truly doesn't have much relevance in the context of community management.Mike Handy said:
As the project coordinator for the community management and Klout project I would like to say thank you. I am honored that we created something that is getting push back. I am stunned that it is being blogged about.
You make a great point about Klout not being a full measure (missing blogs) and being twitter heavy, I agree. The bot issue you are mention is a major reason for the algorithm change this week, time will tell how successful the change was. As a community management tool twitter is likely the extent of the tool's actionable effectiveness at this time.
I think a little back story is probably necessary, as it seems a few points have been taken out of context. The project started as a result of a twitter chat (community managers should check it out #cmgrchat on Wednesdays at 2pm EST), several community managers were interested in how it could be used as a tool. I specifically designed this for that group.
It is important to note that the project is geared towards a twitter community. Most of these community managers use tools like radian 6 or Sysomos that allow exportation of data including usernames into "complex spreadsheets". This simplifies the process and we didn't design the information for people that are working on systems that don't allow this. The reality is Facebook can be a very difficult place to **start** building a social presence. I generally advise larger brands to focus on twitter when starting. The brands I have worked with normally build engagement and interaction on Twitter while shifting an audience towards Facebook. That is the frame of reference for this project.
Klout is one of the only tools I know of that can provide robust data for specific users. Normally tools like this only track follow counts and number of tweets. Percentage factors don't normally register at all, and when they do they are generally way off. Klout is at least close! The ability to find keywords that may have been over looked when building topic profiles is a huge advantage for community managers.
I hope to see some specific tools for community managers from Klout in the coming weeks and months. I also understand your point about Klout perks not always coming off the right way at times. However that does not reduce the effectiveness of the tool for community managers.
@DanielaBolzmann said:
Hi Maggie,
Love your feedback on our project. While I agree with you point that you shouldn't just be gauging your Twitter community that was not the point of the project. The insights we gave were from personal experience as community managers and the techniques we have applied using Klout. The whole goal was to share our techniques with other community managers and help spread knowledge, if nothing else to help Klout in their future algorithms and community manager with their day to day.
While not every company/brand will have a strong twitter community, some do. Another point is that while you do get a higher score for being an active twitter user, that is a good thing if you are using twitter appropriately. As a community manager Klout does help me identify the more influential twitter users and for the companies I work for that is extremely important in helping us get our messages out to the Twitter community as fast as possible. Obviously I don't want to waste time tweeting every person that is a fan on our Twitter account but if I know the more influential and active users I can connect with them and get them on board as a brand ambassador. I wouldn't call this preferential treatment, just smart strategy.
Daniela
Community Manager, Symbaloo
Collaborator on Klout for Community Managers (by Community Managers)
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